2 DOGE staffers say ‘no’ regrets for people losing income, didn’t reduce the deficit: Depositions
One year after Elon Musk initiated an ambitious campaign to reduce government spending, newly released deposition videos shed light on the individuals behind the largest termination of federal grants in the National Endowment for the Humanities’ history.
The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) utilized ChatGPT to identify over $100 million in grants related to diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) that were subsequently revoked. When President Donald Trump reinstated Musk as a lead adviser in the DOGE, drastic measures were taken to cut federal expenditure, resulting in the suspension of DEI staff and programs across all agencies.
In detailed depositions, Justin Fox and Nate Cavanaugh from the DOGE defended their actions, emphasizing the importance of reducing the federal deficit over preserving grant funding. Despite lacking prior government experience, the duo made decisions based on keywords like “DEI, DEIA, Equity, Inclusion, BIPAC, LGBTQ,” with final approval resting with agency heads.
Fox revealed their use of OpenAI’s ChatGPT to analyze grants from the National Endowment for the Humanities, prompting the AI with specific queries related to DEI criteria. However, the lack of a clear definition for DEI and failure to address potential discrimination raised concerns about the decision-making process.
Despite facing opposition and legal challenges, Fox and Cavanaugh stood by their choices, citing the necessity of budget cuts. The failure to achieve deficit reduction goals did not deter their belief in the merit of their actions, as they prioritized savings over potential bias in grant terminations.
Their efforts were commended by DOGE in a social media post, promising future grants would be awarded based on merit and aligned with “pro-America causes.” Some of the saved funds were redirected towards the National Garden of American Heroes, a project dedicated to celebrating the nation’s 250th anniversary.
In conclusion, the deposition videos offer a glimpse into the decision-making process behind the unprecedented grant terminations, highlighting the challenges and controversies surrounding the DOGE’s cost-cutting initiatives.



